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16-05-2012:
For the informations of all copitative passed candidates of 2004 and 2008 batch SDEs: The seniority ;ist No 6 and 7 have been set aside by Hon Chandigad, Ernakulam and Bambay CATs. The Hon High court of Bombay and Ernakulam have upheld confirmed the decesions of respective Hon CATs. BSNL has filed the Review Petition in Bombay HC. Under the circumstances it is important that all LDCE passed SDEs need to be aware of this development and to take steps to safeguard the seniority as published in list 6 and 7. We invite your immediate comments on email to nagavisb@gmail.com. We are also publishing all the judgements for your information.
<<Hon CAT Chandigad>> << Hon CAT Bombay>> << Hon Bombay HC>> << Hon CAT Ernakulam>> << Hon Ernakulam HC>>..
We may hold a meeting shortly in Bangalore to discuss the steps to be taken after getting the response of members through mail.
10-05-2012:
The corrections received thr' sms for the last two days were also incorporated and the list is re-published here for for information For list click here... We are looking forward for the copies of the representations please.
07-05-2012:
The corrected file of final list of Karnataka is published here fore information. For corrected list click here..The copy of the representations submitted by you may please be sent by courior to the address already sent to you by SMS.
07-05-2012:
For the final list of left out LDCE candidates who have registered their names for filing court case in case of Karnataka is published here. The candidates may check the correctness of the data and call Mr S B Nagavi..... ( 9448010565) for correction if any ..For list click here...
14-04-2012:
GS SNEA CHQ writes to Dir HRD for the generalisation of the notional fixation. We from Karnataka are ready for filing the case in respect of the left out candidates. But we will wait for a reasonable time to see the outcome of the response from the management for the said letter. CS SNEA Karnataka Shri S B Nagavi had very effectively presented this case in the AIC at Nanded. This is one court case in which there is absolutely no contraversy nor any adverse affect of seniority to any of our counterparts and hence the association should not hesitate to purue the same with full force which is definately going to help as many as 850 similarly placed SDEs. This has been elaburated in the said letter. We are thankful to Shri K Sebastin CS SNEA and CHQ for understanding the issue and effectively presenting the issue in his letter to the maqnagement. For letter copy clik here.
08-04-2012:
CS SNEA KTK Com S B Nagavi has effectively presented the need of intervention of SNEA for the generalisation of the notional fixation beneafit to all the SDEs promoted in 2004 thr' LDCE held in 2002 at the AIC held at Nanded from 30th March to 1st April 2012..
For the information of the members all the judgement copies of the case are once again uploaded here below as many SDEs are needed them to file cases in case of no positive response from BSNL
1. Hon CAT Bangalore judgement in OA 181/2009. <<P1>><<P2>>
2. Hon High court judgement in WP 37322/2010.. ( Appeal on OA 181/2009).<<P1>>
3. Hon Supreme Court judgement in SLP 22720/2011 ( Challanging CAT/HC orders)<<P1>>
4. Hon CAT orders on CP 38/2010 filed by S B Nagavi one of the applicant.<<P1>>
5. Hon High Court judgement in RP 315/2011 on WP 37322/2010. <<P1>>.
14-03-2012:
47 left out SDEs of Karnataka have joining the group to pursue the case of notional fixation legally and only 3-4 SDEs response is still awaited.. Now we are on the job of persuation with CHQ SNEA for generalisation in addition to getting ready for the legal course. Hence remaining members if any want to join they may please confirm the same with Shri S B Nagavi ( 9448010565) before 16-03-2012..
In Kerala 70 members team of left out candidates is getting ready for legal battle..
Other state candidates are also advised to get prepared for legal battle to act swiftly if the response of the managemant goes negetive..
09-03-2012: Review Petition judgement copy released. For Copy Click here <<part1>> <<part >>
07-03-2012:
In the meeting of the left out candidates of LDCE on 3-3-2012, in Karnataka; it is deceided to get prepared for the legal battle and initially pressurise BSNL through the CHQ association (SNEA) for generalisation. Now we are waiting for the copy of RP judegement. Once copy of judgement is available; all documents will be sent to other state co-ordinators for further action in the matter.The members of Karnataka who have not attended the meeting on 3-3-2012 are requested to immediately submit the VAKALATH forms to Shri S B Nagavi at Circle office Halasur Bangalore. Get ready for one more struggle to get justince to remaining 1400 LDCE candidates promoted on 8-6-2004...
In case of Hyderabad already they have filed a caveat in Hon High Court of Hyderabad. In case of Kerala they have filed caveat in Hon Supreme Court.
02-03-2012:
Congratulations:
The final effort of BSNL to get a review in the notional fixation/preponement of promotion in the case of OA 181/2009 filed by Shri S B Nagavi and 123 others ( 2004 LDCE candidates) was finally closed by the dismisal of the the RP 315/2011 today by the Hon High Court of Karnataka. The case was represented by Shri P A Kulkarni Lawyer for the applicant- respondants in the RP.
The passing of the examinastion had so advesrly affected them that they started getting less salary from November 2004 onwards than their JTO batchmates who were not only juniors but had also failed in the said LDCE examination. BSNL shuold have solved this anamaly instead they tried the other way. But finally justice prevailed and has to be exgtended to all other 1500 candidates also.
We from our side have called for the meeting aof the left out 2004 LDCE passed candidate at Bangalore CGMT Office auditorium on 3-3-3012 at 1330 hours to discuss on the further course of actiuon in the matter.
The outcome of the meeting and instructions to the candidates of other States will also be published within a couple of days.
01-03-2012:
LDCE COURT CASE:
The prouncement of judgement on Review Petition filed by BSNL in OA 181/2009, the case of notional pay fixation and service benefits vide RP No. 315/2011 is scheduled at 1430 hours of tomorrow the 2-3-2012. We will publish the same at about 1530 hour on 2-3-2012.
17-02-2012:
LDCE COURT CASE:
The Review Petition filed by BSNL in OA 181/2009, the case of notional pay fixation and service benefits vide RP No. 315/2011 came up before Hon High Court of Karnataka, The arguments completed after condoning the delay of the submission of RP by BSNL and the Judgement is reserved. It may be re-called here the case fought under the leadership of Shri S B Nagavi and 123 others, already orders have been implemented in Karnataka based on the directive of the Hon Supreme Court while dismissing the SLP filed by BSNL. The case was represented by Shri P A Kulkarni, counsel on behalf of applicants at various courts. Similar judgements have also been pronounced by Hon CAT Hydrabad and Hon Kerala High Court referring the judgement of Karnataka..
15-02-2012:
LDCE CASE;
The Review Petition RP 315/2011 in case of notional fixation case filed by BSNL against OA 181/2009 of S B Nagavi and 123 others is likely to come up before Hon High Court of Karnataka on 17-02-2012 ....
31-01-2012:
Notional date of promotion for the SDEs promoted in 2004 under LDCE quota: Hon High Court at Ernakulam on 30th Jan 2012 given judgment in favour of extending notional date of promotion w.e.f 23.01.2002 for the SDEs promoted in the LDCE quota in 2004 with similar benefits extended by Hon CAT, Banglore in OA 181/2009. The judgment has to be implemented in 2 months time which will be subject to the outcome of the RP pending at Hon High Court of Karnataka at Banglore.
The case at Bangalore was fought by Com S B Nagavi and 123 others upto Hon Supreme Court to end the unwarranted injustice faced by the LDCE passed SDEs and finally got the orders implemented in Karnataka for the applicants. SNEA Karnataka is further persuing with CHQ for the generalisation of the same to all the 1500 candidates all over the country. CS had detailed discussion on this issue yesterday with the GS Com G L Jogi during his visit to Bangalore yesterday.
27-01-2012:
LDCE Court case:
Refer to update on 23rd:
BSNL tried to creat an impression that the RP N0.315/2011 is admitted in Hon High Court of Kranataka. It has accepted the truth that the case is not yet admitted..For corrigendum from Corp Office click here...
23-01-2012:There will be a meeting of the left out candidates in the LDCE court case( 2004 promoted candidates) on 25-1-2012 at 1330 hours at CGMT Office Ulsooor Bangalore to decide on further course of action to generalise the benefits of OA 181/2009 judgement... SDEs concerned may please attend.
23-01-2012:
LDCE Court case
Reply of BSNL CO for the representation of 2002 LDCE passed candidates as per OA 181/2011 of Premakumar and others ( Case fough by S B Nagavi CS SNEA KTK and others) of Hon CAT BG..For CO letter click here... BSNL claims that the case is admitted but the fact of the matter is the RP is still pending for admission and so far not admitted. For the latest status click here...<<1>> After 26-8-2011 hearing; honourable court instructed to comply office objections <<2>>, the case is further not heard and the status is still pending for admission..
23-12-2011:
SNEA KTK EXTRACT ON 21-12-11:
CS Writes to General Secretary Com G L Jogi, for the generalisation of the notional pay fixation to the remaining 1400 LDCE (2004 batch) passed candidates as per Hon CAT Bangalore judgement in OA No.181/2011 filed by Com S B Nagavi and 123 others in Karnataka...For letter Click here..For comparative statement click here..
SNEA CHQ EXTRACT ON 23-12-2011:
- Extending the benefit of notional date of promotion and fixation of pay w.e.f. 23.01.2002 and actual benefits from 01.04.2008 in terms of judgment dated 26.04.2010 of the Hon CAT, Bangalore Bench in OA. No. 181 / 2009 to similarly placed other candidates also ....View letter Copy
18-12-2011: We are expecting the RP 315/2011 in OA 181/2009
is likely to come up before Hon High Court on 6th or 13th Jan 2011.
Till then we the 2004 batch remaining LDCE candidates may wait.
As far as 2008 batch LDCE candidates are concerned, this relief
under subject is in no way help them since they have availed the
benefit of BSNL's 1st TBU (E1-E2) before they got their SDE promotion.
Extract of SNEA KTK update on 13-12-2011 ...
LDCE CASE
LDCE Contempt petition (38/2010) filed by S B Nagavi:
The case came up for hearing on 12-12-2011. CMD BSNL Sh R K Upadyaya and CGMT BG
Sh P Raghavan have personnally attended the Hon CAT Bangalore as per the directive of
the Haon CAT. Shri P A Kulkarni counsel for the LDCE applicants reported the
implimentation of the judgement in toto our satisfaction and hence the CP was closed.
Com S B Nagavi personnally met the respected CMD and submitted 2 page brief;
explaining the injustice and pay loss being experienced by the 1600 LDCE candidates
all over India. CMD was kind enough to go through the brief and was convinced of
our grievience. For brief click here. For comparative pay loss click here.
SNEA Karnatka will take up the matter with CHQ for generalisation of the benefit
to other candidates once the REVIEW petition ( 315/2011) is also disposed off
which is likely to be heard in the first week of Jan 2012.
18-11-2011:
The RP 315/2011 pending before the
Hon High Court of Karnataka did not
so far come up for hearing since one
of the Hon Judges is on deputation to
Hon High court bench of Dharwad . It
is likely to be heard in the last week
Dec 2011. We will persue the matter
of generalisation of the order once the
RP is heard and disposed. Members are
requested to wait for some more time
in this regard..
09-11-2011:
We are expecting the Review Petition
filed by BSNL on LDCE notional pay
fixation case is likely to be heard in
the next week by Hon High Court of
Karnataka. After that we will take
decesion on further course of action
to generalise the orders..
Alert: 124 LDCE candidates: Ensure
to get acknowledgement of the
option letter and submit its copy to
S B Nagavi to produce it to our
legal councel..
04-11-2011: Attention of 124 LDCE candidates of STR STP WTP T&D and ITPC ...
LDCE court case related issues:
(1) Corp Office issues orders to non-recruiting (STR, STP, WTP, T&D,ITPC) circles for the implimentation of the Hon CAT order dtd 24-10-2010 in OA 181/2009.. For letter click here..
(2) STR issues instructions for implimentatkion of above order. For letter click here..
(3) Provision exists to revise the opton for pay fixation due to unforseen development or change of rules..( DOPT OM No.13/2/97-Estt.(Pay-I) dtd 12-12-1997).. For copy click here..
(4) For Hon CAT BG daily order dtd 25-102011 (on Contempt Petition 38/10 filed by S B Nagavi on non implimentation of order on OA 181/2009)..click here..
All the LDCE court case SDEs working in Mobile services are requested to immediately contact Mr S B Nagavi (9448010565)
04-11-2011: Attention of 124 LDCE candidates of Karnataka ...
CGMT Karnataka office has called for option before 5-11-2011. Hence concerned SDEs may immediately give option. For circle office letter click here. For JTOs of 1993 and 1994 batch pay fixation click here..
02-11-2011:
Meeting held at SNEA Bhavan Bangalore on 1-11-2011 and decided further modalities. Some SDEs who have not attended the meeting out of 124 team may immediately contact S B Nagavi (9448010565) to get updated on the issues.. At 1300 hours today he will be at Sanchar Complex to update STR and Jayanagar area SDEs. SDEs interested may meet him there.
31-10-2011:
Now all SSAs in KTK have been directed for the notional pay fixations. After the detailed discussion by our friends at Hubli and making various calculations it is found that opting for deferred CDA pay fiaxtion either on the 23-1-2002 or on the DNI will be beneficial to the 1990 and 1992 batch recuirted JTOs. The 1993 and 1994 batch JTOs can opt direct IDA fixation as deferred CDA is not benefitial to them. All 124 applicants in the court case are requested to give option to your pay drawing officer immediately in the following proforma whichever is beneficial to you. For any clarifications you may contact Mr Ravikiran Jannu (9449859979) or Mr S B Nagavi ( 9448010565)
For the option letter for deferred CDA option click here..<< deferred option as on 23-1-2002>> << deferred option as on DNI after 23-1-2001>>
Calculation sheet << for 1990 batch>> << for 1992 batch>>
31-10-2011:
Meeting of LDCE court case candidates at Hubli on 31-10-2011: Nagavi SDE MS Bg will be visiting Hubli on 31-10-2011; The candidates of north Karnataka and nearby SSAs can meet him at Hubli on 31-10-2011 after noon. For the vanue please contact Mr Jagadale (9449854799) or Mr Bellubbi (9448010044). He will highlight about the deferred CDA option benefits and also the modalities to be adopted in future about the court case (RP) and also on seniority issue in view of the Hon Bombay High Court order of cancelling the seniority list 6 and 7 and the efforts done by our counterparts inMaharastra etc...
29-10-2011:
LDCE Court Case:
CGMT Karnataka issued orders for implimentation of the Hon CAT order endorsed by BSBL office within 10 days to enable to comply to Hon CAT BG... For order click here << part 1>> << part 2 >> . For the orders in respect of STR/STP/T&D seperate order is expected shortly from Corporate Office...
All the candidates in the court list ( 124 SDEs) are requested to be present near SNEA Bhavan, Sahakar Nagar, Bangalore on 1-11-2011 Tuesday at 1200 hours positively to discuss on further course of action regarding opting for CDA pay scales fixation till promotion to SDE grade and also about the implications of Review Petition etc..,
Address of SNEA Bhavan: No 1020, B Block, Behind Police Out Post, Sahakar Nagar Bangalore 92.
Bus Route: Any Bus Going to International Airport or Yelahanka and to get down at Kudigehalli Cross after Hebbal Fly over and take auto to above address with minimum charges. From Majestic City Bus stop the Direct Buses to SNEA Bhavan available; Plat Form No.23 Bus Numbers are 288D and 288M
26-10-2011:
LDCE Court Case in Karnataka:
Historic achievement to restore the injustice caused to the 2004 LDCE passed executives. After sustained struggle of 4 years today BSNL Corporate office issued orders to impliment the Hon CAT Bangalore order on OA (181/2009 ) filed by Com S B Nagavi and 123 others.. However this is subject to the outcome of the REVIEW PETITION filed before Hon High Court of Karnataka. Candidates in this case may contact Com S B Nagavi CS SNEA KTK ( 9448010565 ) for further details in the matter. For order copy click here.
The other compitative passed candidates may register their names in this web site immediately for further course of action for notional fixation as well as protecting the seniority issue in the case of list 6 and 7.. For registration click here..
09-10-2011:
Chandigad Hon CAT Judgement on cancelling the seniority list No.6 & 7
Ernakulam Hon CAT Hudgement on cancelling the seniority list No.6 & 7
Hon Bombay High Court Judement on cancelling the seniority list No.6 & 7
We request all to study the above judgements and get united to fight and get back the seniority and hence register immediately..
Friends,
Now time has come to unite and organise to fight against the recent developments in respect of the injustice caused to the compitative examination passed SDEs in entire India in BSNL as their inter se seniority has been set aside by various Hon CATs like Chindigad and Ernakulam. Further Hon High court of Baombay also has set aside the seniority list number 6 and 7.
We in Karnataka a group of 124 SDEs organised under the leadership of Mr S B Nagavi SDE MSD Bangalore, have filed the case in Hon CAT Bangalore claming the notional service benefit on far with the 75% quota of seniority counterparts. The Hon CAT Bangalore has passed an order to grant the follwoing benefit.
Hon CAT BG ordered counting of experience for the purpose of promotions, annual increments etc. w.e.f. 23.1.2002 but with arrears from 1.4.2008 only, for the SDEs promoted under 25% competitive quota vacancies pertaining to the recruitment years 1996-97, 1997-98, 1998-99, 1999-2000 and 2000-2001 for which Limited Departmental Competitive Examination was scheduled to be held on 23.7.2001, but was actually held on 1.12.2002. The WP filed in Hon High Court Bangalore and SLP in supreme court have been dismissed since the Court found no merit in the WP/Special Leave Petition. The Supreme Court has directed BSNL to comply with the CAT orders within two months from 25.8.2011 but still the RP is still pending before Hon High Court .
We are going to link all the related judgements for the information of the SDEs very shortly. We request you to kindly register your details under the tab Register so that vital information can be emailed to you.
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